Discussion: I was curious so I looked
in: runninghils; runninghils > 2015-07-13
Jul 14, 2015 2:24 PM
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at the 5000 m records per age group for masters women.
W35: 14:34
W40: 15:04 +30
W45: 15:56 +52
W50: 16:20 +24
W55: 17:42 +82
W60: 18:48 +66
If we look at 35-50, the average increase is 30+52+24, yielding 35 seconds for ~3 miles every five years, or 7 seconds over three miles every year, or 2 s/mile per year courtesy of time.
Yes I recognize this may not be relevant because we are not presuming you were already at maximum fitness previously or other different initial conditions, etc.
W35: 14:34
W40: 15:04 +30
W45: 15:56 +52
W50: 16:20 +24
W55: 17:42 +82
W60: 18:48 +66
If we look at 35-50, the average increase is 30+52+24, yielding 35 seconds for ~3 miles every five years, or 7 seconds over three miles every year, or 2 s/mile per year courtesy of time.
Yes I recognize this may not be relevant because we are not presuming you were already at maximum fitness previously or other different initial conditions, etc.
Jul 14, 2015 4:25 PM
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I should not be running 3 minutes slower per mile than I did a few years ago. Cannot be related to age.
Jul 14, 2015 8:26 PM
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Three minutes per mile can't be stretching?!?
What is the baseline for the 3:00/mile? I didn't see any 30:00 5ks? Perceived effort and hr per pace in this muggy weather would do it!
What is the baseline for the 3:00/mile? I didn't see any 30:00 5ks? Perceived effort and hr per pace in this muggy weather would do it!
Jul 14, 2015 8:36 PM
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Last weekend, I ran 2 hours at 11:28 per mile and was really feeling it toward the end and slowing down. On trails, I've been seeing 12 and even 13 (!!) minutes per mile even without a pack. My historical "all day" pace a few years ago was 9:30 per mile. Sure, wearing a pack on a lot of workouts makes a difference. It's not THAT muggy. 10 minute miles should be VERY easy. Instead, I find it very difficult. Something is wrong. I've been running distance for 17+ years and I've never slowed down multiple minutes per mile on a hot day (and this summer isn't even very hot - especially in the evenings when I run.) You can't convince me that this is normal. It is not.
Jul 14, 2015 8:47 PM
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PS I haven't run a 5k for over 1.5 years because I couldn't bear to find myself crying at the finish line after a 30 minute 5k.
Jul 14, 2015 9:16 PM
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As an example, look at the first week of September 2013. I did an 18-mile trail run with pack under 10:00/mile.
Jul 15, 2015 2:11 AM
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You are too hard on yourself. Maybe you need to do more sprint training then endurance stuff? Are you wearing your pack for these slower miles? You might just be having a slower year. That has happened to me before. Or you could be over training.
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